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Seamus Mór (Big James) Murphy — PJM's father, of Ballycrovane Beara

Also known as: Seamus Mor Murphy, Big James Murphy, James Murphy

family confidence: 95 — certain (corroborated)Murphy (paternal)

Per Oliver Murphy's 2026-05-11 email genealogy: son of Crohur (Cornelius) Murphy + Catherine Power. Married Peig Uonhi (Harrington) of Point Ranna, Fay, Eyeries. USER'S GREAT-GREAT-GRANDFATHER (= PJM's father, JJM's grandfather). 6 documented children: John, James (Jim) [= Oliver's grandfather], Mary, Catherine (Kate), Michael, Patrick (Paddy = PJM). DIVERGES FROM the existing archive's Tady-tree hypothesis (which proposed person_timothy_tady_murphy_1825 as PJM's father per the 1992 Donald V. Murphy letter). Two competing parental theories for PJM: (a) **Seamus Mor framework** — Oliver Murphy's 2026 email, confirmed via Ancestry DNA + family contact 2025 (b) **Tady framework** — 1992 Donald V. Murphy letter (held at fc 50 in [[clounaglaskin-ancestral-root]]) Both converge at Clounaglaskin/Eyeries one generation up. Oliver's DNA-corroborated framework has higher provisional weight. Birth and death dates not specified in Oliver's email — need a follow-up for vital data. **Shown as Patrick's father: user decision 2026-10-03, high confidence for now.** The family tree's "James Murphy, b. about 1816, d. about 1884, Ballycrovane" was merged into this record the same day; he is the James Murphy, farmer, named as father on Patrick's 1881 and Catherine's 1884 marriage certificates (of Fawnkil in 1884). Hypothesis A (the 1858 Gort baptism, Joseph Murphy + Margaret Crounhane) is not formally closed; the evidence is weighed on Patrick's record. The tree names James's wife as Mary O'Leary (the Annals II p. 271 reading). By a further user decision the same day she is flagged as probably an error and is not shown as his wife; Peig Uonhi is.

Facts

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Birth:: ~1816, Ballycrovane 502026-05-27 — Luke Murphy family tree (Ancestry.com); undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II (Norelene O'Dwyer's printed copy; a different setting from the repository's screenshot copy)The tree's 'Abt. 1816' is uncited; a first child in Dec 1846 (Annals) fits a birth about 1810-25. Place: the Annals have him of the Ballycrovane home farm ('married in the home farm'), 75.
Death:: ~1884, Ballycrovane 502026-05-27 — Luke Murphy family tree (Ancestry.com); 1881-02-13 — Marriage Returns, Superintendent Registrar's District of Castletown; 1884-02-23 — Irish Family History Foundation — Cork South West Roots Ireland; 1908-03-23 — Montana State Hospital admission records — Patient P. J. MurphyThe tree's 'Abt. 1884' is uncited. What the records give: not marked dead on the 1881 return (Feb 1881); 'James Murphy of Fawnkil' named on his daughter's marriage (Feb 1884); 'Father & mother both dead' by Patrick's account (Nov 1908).
Residence:: Ballycrovane

Date	Fact	Conf.	Sources
1842-07-18	marriage · The tree's marriage to Mary O'Leary, 18 Jul 1842, 'Roman Catholic, Inchigeelagh Parish, Cork' (Inchigeelagh, Co. Cork) Inchigeelagh is a mid-Cork parish far from Beara, and the tree's bride is 'born about 1835'; a misattached record.	5	2026-05-27 — Luke Murphy family tree (Ancestry.com)
1843-1852	residence · Eyries, 11 Oct 1843 (Reproductive Loan Fund records) and Eyeries, 1852, per the tree (Eyeries (village + parish + RC Chapel)) The tree cites the loan-fund records for 1843 and nothing for 1852; there were several James Murphys in the parish.	50	2026-05-27 — Luke Murphy family tree (Ancestry.com)
1846-1864	residence · Ballycrovane: 'de Ballycruane' (1850), 'of BALLYCROVANE' (1864); the Annals' home farm (Ballycrovane) Two register entries and the Annals.	100	1850-04-07 — Catholic parish registers at the National Library of Ireland, Eyeries (Diocese of Kerry), Microfilm 04286 / 05; 1864-05-28 — irishgenealogy.ie church records (Kerry RC, Eyeries), transcription index page; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II
1846-1864	description · Children by the Annals (B): (1) Mary (Dec. 1846), (2) Paddy (Apr. 1850), (3) John, (4) Jim, (5) Kate, (6) Michael (May 1864); Oliver Murphy lists John, James (Jim), Mary, Catherine (Kate), Michael and Patrick (Paddy) (Ballycrovane) Compiled genealogy and a family account; Patrick's sister Margaret is not in either list.	75	undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II (Norelene O'Dwyer's printed copy; a different setting from the repository's screenshot copy); 2026-05-11 — Email correspondence — Oliver Murphy (Beara-side researcher) to Luke Murphy (user)
1881-02-13	occupation · 'Farmer' (rank of the groom's father, 1881) (Ballycrovane) The civil return; the father of the groom is he at 88-95.	90	1881-02-13 — Marriage Returns, Superintendent Registrar's District of Castletown
1884-02-23	residence · Fawnkil ('James Murphy of Fawnkil', father of the bride Catherine Murphy) (Fawnkil, Eyeries parish) Catherine is the Annals' Kate, his daughter (95); Fawnkil lies beside Ballycrovane.	90	1884-02-23 — Irish Family History Foundation — Cork South West Roots Ireland
1908-11	description · Patrick's account of his father (1908): 'Father & mother both dead ... both were old. & father drank a good deal'; his parents 'were not related and were about same age' Patrick's own words to the asylum staff; that the father he meant is Seamus Mor: 88.	85	1908-03-23 — Montana State Hospital admission records — Patient P. J. Murphy
—	name · 'Jacobi Murphy' (1850); 'JAMES NR' (1864 index); 'James Murphy, Farmer' (1881); 'James Murphy of Fawnkil' (1884); 'James, known as Seamus Mor' (Annals); 'Seamus Mor (Big James) Murphy' (Oliver Murphy); 'James Harrington' (the 1881 parish entry, as reported) As printed; the 1881 and parish forms belong to him through Patrick (Luke 95, analyst 88).	95	1850-04-07 — Catholic parish registers at the National Library of Ireland, Eyeries (Diocese of Kerry), Microfilm 04286 / 05; 1864-05-28 — irishgenealogy.ie church records (Kerry RC, Eyeries), transcription index page; 1881-02-13 — Marriage Returns, Superintendent Registrar's District of Castletown; 1884-02-23 — Irish Family History Foundation — Cork South West Roots Ireland; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; 2026-05-11 — Email correspondence — Oliver Murphy (Beara-side researcher) to Luke Murphy (user); 2026-09-04 — Email correspondence between Luke Murphy and the Eyeries parish office, Diocese of Kerry, 14 Aug to 4 Sept 2026
before 1846-12	marriage · 'married in the home farm' to Peig Uonhi (Harrington) 'of Bawers' (Annals); father of lawful children by Margaret Uonhi (1850) and Margaret Harrington (1864) (Ballycrovane) Annals and two baptisms; date only by the first child (Dec 1846).	95	undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II (Norelene O'Dwyer's printed copy; a different setting from the repository's screenshot copy); 1850-04-07 — Catholic parish registers at the National Library of Ireland, Eyeries (Diocese of Kerry), Microfilm 04286 / 05; 1864-05-28 — irishgenealogy.ie church records (Kerry RC, Eyeries), transcription index page

Relationships

Family (blood)

child of Crohur (Cornelius) "Yarb" Murphy (b. 1796 Clounaglaskin; d. 27 Oct 1870 Upper Cahirkeem) — PJM's grandfather15
Oliver Murphy's email alone names Crohur. The Annals name his father twice as Patrick Murphy of Ballycrovane (section A lists 'James, known as Seamus Mor' among Patrick's children; the Bank entry: Paddy Mor, 'a brother of Seamus Mor Murphy who married Peig Uonhi', 'was son of Patrick Murphy, Ballycrovane'), and his first son was Paddy, not Crohur. Same figure as batch b02c. · 2026-05-11 — Email correspondence — Oliver Murphy (Beara-side researcher) to Luke Murphy (user); undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II (Norelene O'Dwyer's printed copy; a different setting from the repository's screenshot copy); undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II
child of Catherine "Kate" Power (b. 1784 Rodeen Castletownbere; d. Upper Cahirkeem) — PJM's grandmother15
Stands or falls with Crohur (Oliver only). · 2026-05-11 — Email correspondence — Oliver Murphy (Beara-side researcher) to Luke Murphy (user); undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II
parent of Patrick "Pat" J. Murphy (Cork-born bartender / shoemaker; d. 1912 Warm Springs MT)95
Luke's decision of 3 Oct 2026 ('show as Seamus Mor with high confidence for now'): 95. Analyst's estimate 88 (the decisions log has Claude at 85; the site's analysis page of 4 Oct has 90). The reasons are on Patrick's son_of edge. · 1881-02-13 — Marriage Returns, Superintendent Registrar's District of Castletown; 1850-04-07 — Catholic parish registers at the National Library of Ireland, Eyeries (Diocese of Kerry), Microfilm 04286 / 05; 1884-02-23 — Irish Family History Foundation — Cork South West Roots Ireland; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; 1971-09-20 — Murphy family papers; 1967-04-09 — Murphy family papers; 1888-04-07 — Irish Family History Foundation — Cork South West (Roots Ireland); 1910-04-15 — US Federal Census 1910 (Thirteenth Census); 1918-12-14 — The Butte Independent, p.1; 2026-09-04 — Email correspondence between Luke Murphy and the Eyeries parish office, Diocese of Kerry, 14 Aug to 4 Sept 2026; 2026-05-11 — Email correspondence — Oliver Murphy (Beara-side researcher) to Luke Murphy (user)
parent of James "Jim" Murphy (PJM's brother; Oliver Murphy's grandfather; stayed in Beara; m. Julia Sullivan 1890)95
Annals (B)(4): Jim settled on the home farm after his brother John died; Oliver, his grandson, agrees. Batch b02c gives Jim's child_of edge 95. · undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II (Norelene O'Dwyer's printed copy; a different setting from the repository's screenshot copy); 2026-05-11 — Email correspondence — Oliver Murphy (Beara-side researcher) to Luke Murphy (user)
parent of Catherine Murphy Sullivan (b. ~1864; sister of Patrick Murphy; m. Patrick "Tailor" Sullivan 1884; JJM's godmother 1883)95
The 1884 marriage names the bride's father James Murphy of Fawnkil; the Annals: Kate 'daughter of Seamus Mor Murphy and Peig Uonhi, Ballycrovane'. Batch b02b: 95. · 1884-02-23 — Irish Family History Foundation — Cork South West Roots Ireland; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; 2026-05-11 — Email correspondence — Oliver Murphy (Beara-side researcher) to Luke Murphy (user)
parent of Miss Margaret Murphy (b. ~1867-70 Eyeries Co. Cork; emigrated 1892; never married; sister of Pat the bartender)75
She is Patrick's sister and the tree names her father James Murphy; not in the Annals' list of six, and born 1866-73. No Luke number. · 1908-01-08 — The Butte Miner, p.12; 1912-04-24 — The Butte Miner, p.6; 2026-05-27 — Luke Murphy family tree (Ancestry.com)
parent of Mary Murphy O'Sullivan (b. Dec 1846 Ballycrovane; Patrick's sister; first wife of Jack "Dorohy" O'Sullivan)85
Annals (B)(1) 'Mary (Dec. 1846)'; Oliver lists a Mary; the tree gives her father as James Murphy. · undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II (Norelene O'Dwyer's printed copy; a different setting from the repository's screenshot copy); 2026-05-11 — Email correspondence — Oliver Murphy (Beara-side researcher) to Luke Murphy (user); 2026-05-27 — Luke Murphy family tree (Ancestry.com)
parent of Michael Murphy (bapt. 28 May 1864, Ballycrovane; went to San Francisco; Patrick's brother)95inferred
The 1864 baptism names his parents James Murphy and Margaret Harrington of Ballycrovane; the Annals list him as Seamus Mór and Peig's child (6). Luke's decision of 3 Oct 2026 makes Seamus Mór Patrick's father at 95 (research/docs/decisions-2026-10-03.md); Claude's own estimate is 85. · 1864-05-28 — irishgenealogy.ie church records (Kerry RC, Eyeries), transcription index page; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II (Norelene O'Dwyer's printed copy; a different setting from the repository's screenshot copy); undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; 2026-05-11 — Email correspondence — Oliver Murphy (Beara-side researcher) to Luke Murphy (user)
parent of John Murphy (Ballycrovane; Seamus Mór's son; died before 1890; Patrick's brother)85inferred
The Annals list him as Seamus Mór and Peig's child (3); Oliver's email agrees. Both are compiled or family accounts and no register entry is filed, so 85. · undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II (Norelene O'Dwyer's printed copy; a different setting from the repository's screenshot copy); undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; 2026-05-11 — Email correspondence — Oliver Murphy (Beara-side researcher) to Luke Murphy (user)

Marriage

married to Peig Uonhi (Harrington) — PJM's mother, of Point Ranna, Fay, Eyeries100
Two register entries name James Murphy and Margaret Uonhi (1850) / Margaret Harrington (1864) of Ballycrovane as parents; the Annals and Oliver independently pair Seamus Mor with Peig Uonhi (Harrington). · 1850-04-07 — Catholic parish registers at the National Library of Ireland, Eyeries (Diocese of Kerry), Microfilm 04286 / 05; 1864-05-28 — irishgenealogy.ie church records (Kerry RC, Eyeries), transcription index page; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II (Norelene O'Dwyer's printed copy; a different setting from the repository's screenshot copy); undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; 2026-05-11 — Email correspondence — Oliver Murphy (Beara-side researcher) to Luke Murphy (user)
listed as claimed wife of this person by Mary O'Leary (named as Patrick's mother in the Annals and the family tree; flagged as probably an error)15inferred
Luke's flag (3 Oct 2026) puts her at 10 overall. Analyst 15 for this edge: a second marriage of Seamus Mor after Peig's last known child (1864) would explain both Margaret (b. 1866-73) and Riobard's 'Mary O'Leary'; nothing records one. · undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II; undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara" (volume number not specified on this excerpt; page numbered "—29—"); 2026-05-27 — Luke Murphy family tree (Ancestry.com)

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Sources linking to this person

≥75 — High confidence — 12

undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume II (Norelene O'Dwyer's printed copy; a different setting from the repository's screenshot copy)Annals of Beara Vol II, MURPHY (BALLYCROVANE): the whole (A)-(C) opening in Norelene O'Dwyer's copy, adding the thirteenth child of Jim and Julia, Julia (Sept. 25th 1909)
role: section_b_subject · identity 100 family confidence on this source: 95
Identity: The same sections in Norelene O'Dwyer's copy.
undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume IIAnnals of Beara Vol II, p.270: 11-children family + Jer Harrington & Katie Murphy + PADDY (TAILOR) O'SULLIVAN & KATE MURPHY (Ardgroom Village)
role: kate_murphys_father_per_odwyer · identity 100 family confidence on this source: 95 · as printed: Seamus Mor Murphy, Ballycrovane
Identity: 'daughter of Seamus Mor Murphy and Peig Uonhi, Ballycrovane'.
undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume IIAnnals of Beara Vol II, p.270 sections (A)-(C): Patrick Murphy of Ballycrovane → Seamus Mór Murphy + Peig Uonhi → Jim Murphy + Julia O'Sullivan (Seer)
role: section_b_subject · identity 100 family confidence on this source: 95 · as printed: James, known as Seamus Mor
Identity: Sections (A) and (B): 'James, known as Seamus Mor'.
undated — Riobárd Ó Dwyer, "Who Were My Ancestors? Annals of Beara," Volume IIAnnals of Beara Vol II, ~p.275: PADDY MOR MURPHY & MARGARET MURPHY (BANK) — Paddy Mor as brother of Seamus Mor; both sons of an older Patrick Murphy of Ballycrovane
role: brother_of_paddy_mor_section_a · identity 100 family confidence on this source: 95
Identity: 'Seamus Mor Murphy who married Peig Uonhi', brother of Paddy Mor.
1850-04-07 — Catholic parish registers at the National Library of Ireland, Eyeries (Diocese of Kerry), Microfilm 04286 / 05Baptism of Patrick Murphy, 7 April 1850, Ballycruane: son of James Murphy and Margaret Uonhi
role: father · identity 95 family confidence on this source: 95 · as printed: Jacobi Murphy
Identity: James Murphy of Ballycrovane with a wife Margaret Uonhi and a son Patrick baptised April 1850 is the Seamus Mor Murphy of the Annals of Beara, whose second child is Paddy (Apr. 1850).
1864-05-28 — irishgenealogy.ie church records (Kerry RC, Eyeries), transcription index pageBaptism of Michael Murphy of Ballycrovane, 28 May 1864, father 'James NR', mother Margaret Harrington: Seamus Mór's youngest child in the register
role: father · identity 95 family confidence on this source: 95 · as printed: JAMES NR
Identity: 'JAMES NR' with Margaret Harrington, Ballycrovane: the Annals' (6) Michael (May 1864).
1881-02-13 — Marriage Returns, Superintendent Registrar's District of CastletownMarriage of Patrick Murphy and Ellen Lyne, 13 Feb 1881, Ardgroom
role: father_of_groom · identity 88 family confidence on this source: 95 · as printed: James Murphy
Identity: 'James Murphy, Farmer', father of the groom Patrick: Luke 95, analyst 88.
1884-02-23 — Irish Family History Foundation — Cork South West Roots IrelandPatrick 'Tailor' Sullivan + Catherine Murphy marriage — 23 Feb 1884 Eyeries (Catherine = JJM's paternal aunt + godmother)
role: father_of_bride · identity 90 family confidence on this source: 100 · as printed: James Murphy
Identity: 'James Murphy of Fawnkil', father of the bride Catherine (the Annals' Kate).
1908-03-23 — Montana State Hospital admission records — Patient P. J. MurphyPatrick J. Murphy asylum admission record — Warm Springs MT, 23 March 1908, age 52, bartender, 8 children only 3 living
role: subject_father_per_clinical_interview · identity 85 family confidence on this source: 95 · as printed: PJM's father (unnamed)
Identity: Patrick's own account of his father ('drank a good deal'; dead, 'old'); that this father is Seamus Mor: 88.
2026-04 — Luke Murphy's family researchPatrick Murphy of County Cork — genealogical briefing on the two competing baptism hypotheses (April 2026)
role: hypothesis_b_candidate_father · identity 100 family confidence on this source: 95
Identity: Named in Luke's briefing as the Hypothesis B father.
2026-05-11 — Email correspondence — Oliver Murphy (Beara-side researcher) to Luke Murphy (user)Oliver Murphy (Beara) → Luke Murphy email: full Ballycrovane Murphy genealogy back to John Murphy b.1720; confirms PJM = Patrick 'Paddy' Murphy son of Seamus Mor
role: pjm_father · identity 95 family confidence on this source: 95 · as printed: Seamus Mor (Big James) Murphy
Identity: Oliver's account names him with his wife Peig Uonhi and their children; held only in mentioned:.
2026-09-04 — Email correspondence between Luke Murphy and the Eyeries parish office, Diocese of Kerry, 14 Aug to 4 Sept 2026Eyeries parish office, 4 Sept 2026: the 1881 parish marriage entry names the fathers only, 'James Harrington and Myles Lyne'
role: father_of_groom_as_reported · identity 75 family confidence on this source: 95 · as printed: James Harrington
Identity: Reported as the groom's father in the parish entry. The civil return of the same marriage names him James Murphy. That the James of the entry is Seamus Mor of Ballycrovane rests on the Harrington, his wife's surname; the entry has not been seen.