Charlotte Bertha (Smith) Schueller (Mrs. Ted Schueller)
family confidence: 0 — not family / context
Wife of Ted (Theodore B.) Schueller of Sherman Oaks, who was the brother of Marie A. Schueller, James J. Murphy Jr.'s wife. Mother of Jo Ann Schueller Cooke (m. 1954) and Charlene. Not a Murphy and not a daughter of James and Agnes Murphy. Until 4 Oct 2026 this record was "Mrs. Ted Schueller (née Murphy)" (person_mrs_ted_schueller_nee_murphy), made on a misreading of the 1954 wedding report: "Jim Murphy, the bride's uncles" was read as a maternal uncle; he was James Jr., her uncle by marriage on her father's side.
Facts
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- Birth:
- 1911-10-24 752026-05-27 — Luke Murphy family tree (Ancestry.com)Tree only: 24 Oct 1911, California, citing the 1940 census and the SSDI; a granddaughter in a Los Angeles household in 1920 and a daughter, single, in Las Vegas in 1930. Parents on the tree: Morris J. Smith and Anna E. The cited records are not filed in the archive. 75 as a tree fact.
- Death:
- 2003-01-06 752026-05-27 — Luke Murphy family tree (Ancestry.com)Tree only: 6 Jan 2003, Granada Hills, California (SSDI). Not filed. 75.
- Residence:
- Los Angeles, California
| Date | Fact | Conf. | Sources |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1954-05 | residence · Sherman Oaks ('Mr. and Mrs. Ted Schueller of Sherman Oaks') (Sherman Oaks (San Fernando Valley, LA)) 1954 report. | 95 | 1954-05-29 — Valley Times, p.9 |
| 1954-05 | event · mother of the bride at the marriage of Jo Ann Schueller and John J. Cooke, St. Cyril's Catholic Church, Encino (Encino (San Fernando Valley, LA)) 1954 report. | 95 | 1954-05-29 — Valley Times, p.9 |
| 1954-05 | name · printed only as 'Mrs. Ted Schueller'; on the tree, Ted B. Schueller's wife is Charlotte Bertha (Smith), married 27 Nov 1933 at Los Angeles The tree's family of Theodore B. Schueller and Charlotte Bertha has daughters Jo Ann (b. 1935) and Charlene (b. about 1938), the report's bride and maid of honour; her parents on the tree are Morris J. Smith and Anna E. 85 that Mrs. Ted Schueller is Charlotte; 75 as a tree fact. | 75 | 1954-05-29 — Valley Times, p.9; 2026-05-27 — Luke Murphy family tree (Ancestry.com) |
| 1954-05 | description · 'Four generations of the bride's maternal family and three of her paternal family were in attendance at the wedding' (Encino (San Fernando Valley, LA)) As printed (checked on the page scan). Four living generations above and including the bride are impossible on James's side in 1954; they are possible on the Smith side (Charlotte lived with her grandparents in 1920, tree). | 95 | 1954-05-29 — Valley Times, p.9 |
| 2026-10-04 | description · Identity (Luke's call, 4 Oct 2026): she is Charlotte Bertha (Smith), wife of Ted Schueller, Marie Schueller Murphy's brother; not a daughter of James and Agnes Murphy. The record was "Mrs. Ted Schueller (née Murphy)" until then. The 1954 report prints only "Mr. and Mrs. Ted Schueller of Sherman Oaks" and "Frank and John Schueller and Jim Murphy, the bride's uncles" (checked on the page scan; "maternal" is not printed). The tree marries Ted B. Schueller, Marie's brother, to Charlotte Bertha Smith on 27 Nov 1933 at Los Angeles and puts Jo Ann and Charlene, the report's bride and maid of honour, in their 1940 census household. Every count of James's children (1924 school census: six; 1938 obituary: four surviving daughters; 1940 wedding party) leaves no room for another daughter. That she is James and Agnes's daughter: 2-3 (analysts b01, b04, b05a). That Mrs. Ted Schueller is the tree's Charlotte: 85 (b05b); 90 that Ted is Marie's brother. | 90 | 1954-05-29 — Valley Times, p.9; 2026-05-27 — Luke Murphy family tree (Ancestry.com); 1924 — 1924 Silver Bow County School Census Report (District No. 1); 1938-12-19 — The Montana Standard, p.3; 1940-11-09 — The Los Angeles Times, p.24 |
Relationships
Marriage
- married to Ted Schueller (Sherman Oaks)95'Mr. and Mrs. Ted Schueller of Sherman Oaks'; the record was made for Ted's wife. The tree marries Ted B. Schueller to Charlotte Bertha on 27 Nov 1933. 95. · 1954-05-29 — Valley Times, p.9; 2026-05-27 — Luke Murphy family tree (Ancestry.com)
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Appears with
- Jo Ann Schueller1 shared source
- James J. Murphy Jr. (b. 20 Mar 1914 Butte MT; d. 1972; user's paternal grandfather)1 shared source
- Ted Schueller (Sherman Oaks)1 shared source
- John J. Cooke (Columbus OH, m. 1954)1 shared source
Sources linking to this person
<25 — Namesake / flag / context — 1
- 1954-05-29 — Valley Times, p.9Couples Exchange Vows In Valley Church Rites / Misses Schueller And Lanman Choose White Bridal Gownsrole: mother_of_bride · identity 95 family confidence on this source: 0 · as printed: Mrs. Ted Schueller
Identity: The record was made for 'Mrs. Ted Schueller', the bride's mother; she is that woman. Only its 'née Murphy' is wrong.